The RWS LP8 – A Classic in the Making

For the past several weeks, I’ve been shooting a new air pistol that I believe is a classic in the making. The RWS LP8, also known as the Diana LP8, is a break-barrel, spring-piston, single-shot air pistol that will replace the 5G pistol. Available only in .177, the LP8 stretches nearly 18 inches from end to end, weighs 3.2 lbs, and has an integrated top rail for mounting a scope or red dot.
The LP8 is set up a bit like the old powder burning Fireball pistol, which had a fair amount of the receiver rearward of the pistol grip and overhanging the shooter’s hand. The LP8 is designed to be ambidextrous. Both sides of the action are enclosed by a handsome matte finish black metal casting, and the pistol grip is enclosed by molded ambidextrous plastic grips. Further, on either side of the receiver, just above the grips, is a flip-lever safety. Truly, the ergonomics of this pistol will keep both lefties and righties happy.
At the very stern of the LP8 is a metal name plate that says “RWS.” Just above that, on top of the receiver, is a micro-adjustable rear notch sight with a fiber optic green dot on either side of the notch. Moving forward, you’ll find the rail for mounting a scope or red dot. (In the picture, you’ll notice that I used a Leapers 3/8-to-weaver adaptor to mount the red dot on my LP8, but I did that only because the only unused red dot that was available had weaver mounts.) The receiver measures nearly 11 inches from the front edge to the back of the pistol. Moving forward again, you’ll find the barrel and a muzzle weight with the front sight which has a red fiber optic dot.

Moving underneath the receiver, the trigger guard is an integral part of the castings that surround either side of the action. Inside the trigger guard is a metal trigger which has a grooved front surface. Underneath the trigger guard in a small hole for a screw that prevents trigger overtravel and should not be adjusted.
Loading the LP8 is dead easy: grab the muzzle weight from underneath (otherwise the front sight will poke you in the palm) and pull down and back until the barrel latches. This cocks the action and activates the automatic safety. Insert a .177 pellet into the exposed breech and return the barrel to its original position.
Now you’re good to go. Flip off the safety lever, ease the first stage out of the trigger and squeeze just a bit more. According to my Lyman digital trigger gage, out of the box, the first stage takes 2 lb 13 oz, and the shot goes off at 3 lb 11 oz, and I had no difficulties achieving satisfying accuracy with that weight of trigger.
The shot cycle is very smooth, and makes kind of a “doink” sound that is very neighbor friendly. You can hear some vibration, but you don’t feel it in your hands. On my Oehler chronograph, the LP8 was sending 7.9 gr. Crosman Premier Light pellets downrange at 558 fps average. That’s within kissing distance of an untuned Beeman R7 rifle. By contrast, my RWS 5G pistol launches the same pellets at 530 fps average. In an email, the folks at UmarexUSA told me they got the following results: RWS Hypermax 645 fps, RWS Hobby 560 fps, RWS Super H-Point 550 fps, and RWS Super Dome 500 fps.
Fooling around in my side yard, from a sitting position, and using a red dot (which is not the best choice for ultimate accuracy), I put five shots into a group that measured 11/16 inch edge to edge. Three of the shots were in a cloverleaf group where all the holes touched each other.

The bottom line is that I think the LP8 is one heck of an air pistol. It has power, accuracy, and it’s fun to shoot. My prediction is that a lot of airgunners will think the same thing and vote with their wallets.
Til next time, aim true and shoot straight.
- Jock Elliott

15 Comments:
I'm curious. If I didn't know any better I'd say the LP8 is a dressed up 5G. The velocity claim for this pistol like its predecessor is wildly optimistic. Shame you didn't put some Beeman FTS pellets through it.
How is the fit and finish of the pistol grip and body of this pistol? I've heard some missives in this regard. I hope customer feedback is good considering the Beeman P1 costs an arm and a leg!
Vulcanator,
The Diana website claims 580fps.
Fit and finish are superior, in my opinion, to the 5G. The shot cycles of the two pistols feel the same, but the LP8 is faster. The safety is easier to use on the LP8, and the LP8 is much easier to scope.
I don't know whether the internals of the LP8 and 5G differ, but based on my experience so far, I give the LP8 my hearty recommendation.
Thanks for your response. The Airguns of Arizona website claim 700fps, like the 5G which apparently is in error. What I do like about this pistol is the true ambidextrous design of the grip and safety, very thoughtful indeed in Diana's part.
When I get a bit of discretionary "green" in my pocket, I will probably pick on of these up. Thanks for the review.
As long as people make a 'buy' decision based on velocity you will find claims based on very unrealistic scenarios (like tiny pellets with a BC of about nothing!)
3 Pellet weights per cal should be the standard velocity test, a genuine lightweight (like a Hobby) a middle hitter (say 15 ish in .22) and a heavy hitter (Baracuda 21g in .22 for example).
That will provide a fair comparison for all powerplants.
Vulcanator,
To further confuse things, the folks at AoA tell me that the LP8 boxes say, "700 fps." I guess whoever designed the boxes didn't talk to whoever designed the Diana website.
In addition, if you really absolutely have to have high speed, you can get some really impressive numbers with very light pellets:
JSB Match Diabolo 7.33 gr
Average - 582 fps
Crosman Silver Eagle HP 4.8 gr
Average - 753 fps
Gamo PBA 5.4 gr
Average - 677 fps
That information is courtesy of the good folks at AoA.
Anonymous,
I agree: it's just plain wrong to make a purchasing decision based on velocity. If you look at my additional reply to Vulcanator, you can, indeed, get some pretty wild numbers with the LP8, but I doubt you'll like the accuracy.
In theory, I like your idea of having some standard pellets, but I doubt that people would agree on which three pellets ought to be tested, I think folks would tend to support their favorite pellet.
What I generally do with rifles is test to see which pellet delivers the best accuracy and then chronograph the gun with that pellet. With pistols, I find its a lot tougher to go for ultimate accuracy.
I'll give some thought to your idea, though, and I appreciate the comment.
From the pic, it looks like the LP8 is more friendly than the 5G (and my old 6M)to people with smaller hands.
Can the front sight be easily removed? It I put a red-dot on it, I don't need to have my cocking hand cut by the front sight.
RWS not Diana are the ones boasting the 700fps velocity and it drives me nuts. This and the 5G are plenty powerful for a spring pistol without inflating the velocities.
Is the trigger adjustable besides the overtravel? I love the trigger on my 5G and am thinking seriously of getting this gun as well.
To both Anonymouses (Anonymice?),
First, you don't need to remove the front sight to prevent the sight poking your palm. Just reach up UNDERNEATH the barrel and pull down to cock the LP8. The cocking effort is low, and I find that method works really well.
Second, the trigger on the LP8 is not adjustable, but having shot both pistols side by side, I can tell you that I find the two triggers very comparable (as both pistols come out of the box from the factory), and my brother-in-law actually preferred the LP8 over its predecessor.
If I had difficulty shooting accurately because of the LP8 trigger, I would say so, but it hasn't been an issue for me.
Received my LP8 a few days ago and have had plenty of time to run pellets through it and tear it down. It is stronger than my P5 Mag, quieter, more accurate, but I wouldn't say that the fit and finish is better. Barrel weight and breach pivots were both loose and the trigger was terrible. The "first" stage amounted to nothing more than pulling against a spring. It did no work at all much like a Gamo. Additionally it felt different each shot due to the huge amount of grease in there. I tore it down and found the adjustment screw is not capable of being run in to where it is unsafe. Adjusted mine out to take up the play in the group and removed much of the grease and it is much better now. Might want to give it a try on yours.
Anonymous,
Thanks for your input. I didn't have any of those problems with my LP8, but it is good to know what you have experienced.
As to the fit and finish, perhaps that is a matter of taste.
Well I have put just under 1,000 pellets through it so far and the velocities I am seeing are 499fps Super dome and 600fps Super H point. A very accurate gun with a red dot sight on it and quite capable of taking out squirrels. Certainly pleased with my investment.
Anonymous,
It's good to hear that the LP8 is working out for you. I think it's one of those pistols that will enjoy a large and loyal group of fans.
How does this pistol compare to the new Remington version?
Anonymous, I think maybe you mean the new Browning pistol. I'll be doing a blog on the Browning pretty soon, and I think that will answer your questions.
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