Comments on: The Incredibly Versatile Challenger http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html Weekly airgun reports from airgunners to airgunners! Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:47:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jock Elliott http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-1308 Jock Elliott Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:59:06 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-1308 Dotti, I suggest you read the following: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2008/11/word-to-parents-about-airgun-safety.html If all parents would follow these guidelines, "accidents" would drop to zero. Please read it and pass the link along to anyone you know who is concerned about airguns safety. Dotti,

I suggest you read the following: https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2008/11/word-to-parents-about-airgun-safety.html

If all parents would follow these guidelines, “accidents” would drop to zero.

Please read it and pass the link along to anyone you know who is concerned about airguns safety.

]]> By: Dotti Workman http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-1306 Dotti Workman Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:22:27 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-1306 Also, not sure exactly what gun it was. it's still under investigation. I was told it was a Crossman. It was a pump gun. I'm also not sure what it fired. BB's, Pelletts. I don't know. And I really don't understand the comment of the other Blogger who said "If her son truly is Blinded" That is not something any parent would want to lie about. Also, not sure exactly what gun it was. it’s still under investigation. I was told it was a Crossman. It was a pump gun. I’m also not sure what it fired. BB’s, Pelletts. I don’t know. And I really don’t understand the comment of the other Blogger who said “If her son truly is Blinded” That is not something any parent would want to lie about.

]]> By: Dotti Workman http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-1305 Dotti Workman Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:15:33 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-1305 Jack. My son was swimming in the back yard while visiting my sister in TN. The boy next door was shooting and my son turned his head to look and was struck in the eye. What I see as a problem is not enough warnings or accountability. I think it starts with the Mfg's and dealers. Ex: I called Walmart and said "My 8 yr old son wants a BB gun, what do you recommend?" The sales clerk said "Well you can start him off with a Daisy but he will want something more powerful pretty quickly" No warnings at all. I went to the store and you can buy them right off the shelf. The only warning is on the box saying "This is not a Toy" As a parent I had no idea that at 250 fps they can penetrate skin, at 400 fps it can crack bone. There is a little girl right a few months ago shot in the eye and can no longer, walk, talk or feed herself. Kids get guns they think are toys and like to aim them at each other and shoot. 30,000 children per year are admitted to the ER with these injuries. And I use BB gun, because I'm not familiar with the difference. I'm trying to get my voice out there to push for stiffer warnings and penalties, even to the parents. The little girl I was referring to was in her grandmothers house with lots of people around and her cousin pulled it out of the closet. If they are suppose to be treated like handguns then why aren't they sold like them. What suggestions for change do you suggest. Jack. My son was swimming in the back yard while visiting my sister in TN. The boy next door was shooting and my son turned his head to look and was struck in the eye. What I see as a problem is not enough warnings or accountability. I think it starts with the Mfg’s and dealers. Ex: I called Walmart and said “My 8 yr old son wants a BB gun, what do you recommend?” The sales clerk said “Well you can start him off with a Daisy but he will want something more powerful pretty quickly” No warnings at all. I went to the store and you can buy them right off the shelf. The only warning is on the box saying “This is not a Toy” As a parent I had no idea that at 250 fps they can penetrate skin, at 400 fps it can crack bone. There is a little girl right a few months ago shot in the eye and can no longer, walk, talk or feed herself. Kids get guns they think are toys and like to aim them at each other and shoot. 30,000 children per year are admitted to the ER with these injuries. And I use BB gun, because I’m not familiar with the difference. I’m trying to get my voice out there to push for stiffer warnings and penalties, even to the parents. The little girl I was referring to was in her grandmothers house with lots of people around and her cousin pulled it out of the closet. If they are suppose to be treated like handguns then why aren’t they sold like them. What suggestions for change do you suggest.

]]> By: Jock Elliott http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-946 Jock Elliott Mon, 04 Oct 2010 09:27:50 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-946 I write 99% of these reports. I write 99% of these reports.

]]> By: mike http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-942 mike Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:30:52 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-942 are you the only one that writes these reports? everything on here is by jock elliot? are you the only one that writes these reports? everything on here is by jock elliot?

]]> By: Jock Elliott http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-697 Jock Elliott Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:13:06 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-697 Slinging Lead, I'm sure that Ms. Workman is just using a figure of speech . . . she couldn't have gotten hold of my gun. For me, the key to parental supervision with airguns means being close enough to redirect the muzzle of the gun at a moment's notice if needed. It doesn't mean, for example, glancing out the kitchen window every once in a while to make sure everything is okay. Slinging Lead,

I’m sure that Ms. Workman is just using a figure of speech . . . she couldn’t have gotten hold of my gun.

For me, the key to parental supervision with airguns means being close enough to redirect the muzzle of the gun at a moment’s notice if needed. It doesn’t mean, for example, glancing out the kitchen window every once in a while to make sure everything is okay.

]]> By: Slinging Lead http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-695 Slinging Lead Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:08:45 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-695 Jock I would very much like to know how Ms. Workman got a hold of YOUR gun, and since when the Challenger is meant to shoot BBs. If her son is genuinely blinded I feel very badly for him. Perhaps he will realize one day that if his parents had taken the time to teach him gun safety, and educated themselves a just a little about the gun before they splurged for it, that he would be better off. BTW: This is an airGUN review not "an add [sic]." Jock

I would very much like to know how Ms. Workman got a hold of YOUR gun, and since when the Challenger is meant to shoot BBs. If her son is genuinely blinded I feel very badly for him. Perhaps he will realize one day that if his parents had taken the time to teach him gun safety, and educated themselves a just a little about the gun before they splurged for it, that he would be better off.

BTW: This is an airGUN review not “an add [sic].”

]]> By: Jock Elliott http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-682 Jock Elliott Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:23:37 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-682 Dotti, Sorry to hear about your son's eye. <strong>BB guns and airguns are not toys. I never said they were.</strong> Please check on this blog "A Word to Parents about Airgun Safety" here: <a href="http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2008/11/word-to-parents-about-airgun-safety.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2008/11/word-to-parents-about-airgun-safety.html</a> I think this addresses your concerns. Dotti,

Sorry to hear about your son’s eye.

BB guns and airguns are not toys. I never said they were.

Please check on this blog “A Word to Parents about Airgun Safety” here: http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2008/11/word-to-parents-about-airgun-safety.html

I think this addresses your concerns.

]]> By: Dotti Workman http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/incredibly-versatile-challenger.html/comment-page-1#comment-680 Dotti Workman Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:13:41 +0000 http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2009/09/the-incredibly-versatile-challenger.html#comment-680 My son was shot in the eye with your BB gun and is permanently blind. Thats a Toy? Fun for all ages? Fun in the back yard? Where are your warnings on this add. My son was shot in the eye with your BB gun and is permanently blind. Thats a Toy? Fun for all ages? Fun in the back yard? Where are your warnings on this add.

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